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0002493Industrial-Craft²tools / electric itemspublic2019-02-27 23:22
ReporterExplosionFreakAssigned To 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Status acknowledgedResolutionopen 
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002493: Mining laser explosive mode - insane damage
DescriptionSo I was playing in my hardcore world, where I crafted Mining Laser for the first time. I was trying out its different modes, and when I picked "Explosive", I fired a single beam at some distance (0000005:0000006-7 blocks), and it killed me instantly (RIP my world), even though I was wearing a full iron armor set.
After that, I decided to test the damage of Explosive mode in my creative world. Results:
- it kills every mob, like enderman or even iron golem, in 1 shot (however, Wither boss takes 2 shots, and Ender Dragon cannot be damaged by Explosive mode)
- at point blank, it kills a player in full Nanosuit armor set in 1 shot
- Quantumsuit can take about 3 shots at point blank, the next shot will kill you
- your distance from the explosion does matter, but anything weaker than Nanosuit will most likely die even at the edge of explosion (but that's not the case with mobs, they seem to receive much less damage at the edge)

Is it really a bug, or intended? I couldn't find any more info.
Steps To ReproduceSwitch Mining Laser to "Explosive" mode...
Additional InformationUsed mods are on the pinned pic
Tags1.12.2, Mining Laser
Minecraft Version1.12.2

Activities

ExplosionFreak

2019-02-16 22:55

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mod list.png (4,167 bytes)
mod list.png (4,167 bytes)

KrisBigK

2019-02-17 08:15

reporter   ~0005916

This is the first time I have seen someone saying the damage is too high, iirc.
Anyway, I tested the damage from 1 block away (by going to survival mode without wearing armor and using the health_boost effect to see how much damage I took without killing me), explosion radius (destroying a square of slime block) and explosion results on stone. Here are the results:
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Damage
TNT: 22 hearts
Industrial TNT: 60 hearts
Mining laser:
1 block: 168 hearts
2 block: 132 hearts
3 block: 96 hearts
4 block: 72 hearts full set iron armor
5 block: 36 hearts 31.5 hearts
6 block: 24 hearts 21 hearts
7 block: 24 hearts 21 hearts
8 block: 12 hearts
9 block: no damage
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Explosion Radius (on slime)
TNT: 4 blocks, random on the edge
Industrial TNT: 2 blocks
Mining laser: 4 blocks, with a ring 1 block wide
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Explosion result on stone
TNT: irregular shape, different every time
Industrial TNT: irregular shape, same every time, took out 34 blocks
Mining laser: regular shape, same every time, took out 37 blocks
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So... The results clearly show that it is deadly when being too close to the explosion even with good armor. The damage of the laser is somewhat too high comparatively and obviously unbalanced when using it to finish a wither in 2 sec. The explosion damage should be set to a lower value in close range or add a config option for it. The explosion damage on blocks is quite balanced.

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stone_TNT.png (131,391 bytes)
stone_laser.png (135,801 bytes)
stone_laser.png (135,801 bytes)
setup_stone.png (222,526 bytes)
setup_stone.png (222,526 bytes)
setup_TNT.png (122,534 bytes)
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stone_I-TNT.png (152,601 bytes)

KrisBigK

2019-02-17 08:22

reporter   ~0005917

more screenshots
These screenshots were too large for uploading so I had to reduce the resolution.
Redstone block represents where the TNT were placed on top of.

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slime_laser.png (143,773 bytes)
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slime_I-TNT.png (153,705 bytes)
slime_I-TNT.png (153,705 bytes)

KrisBigK

2019-02-17 08:26

reporter   ~0005918

Forgot to mention that the damage test was done by shooting the laser at a bedrock block. The distance in screenshot is 6 blocks, where the player stands on the right most bedrock.

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KrisBigK

2019-02-17 08:31

reporter   ~0005919

Correction: The distance in the screenshot above is 7 blocks, not 6. I just realized that I counted the numbers wrong.

Chocohead

2019-02-18 01:25

reporter   ~0005923

The damage is specifically specified to be more than iTNT in the code, as well as the actual block damage to be a tad weaker. 168 hearts is quite the impact though, might be worth going back to see if it has varied between Minecraft versions that dramatically.

KrisBigK

2019-02-18 04:55

reporter   ~0005926

Did further testing with a range of 1 block. It seems that the damage is different when hitting different sides of a block despite the same range.
Results:
1.7.10: 132 hearts
1.8.9: 144 hearts
1.9.4: 132 hearts
1.10.2: 156 hearts
1.11.2: 156 hearts

Chocohead

2019-02-27 23:22

reporter   ~0005938

Strange how it has drifted around when the code is effectively unchanged between the versions. I was thinking maybe the armour protection values changing might have influenced it but that wouldn't explain doing more damage without any.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2019-02-16 22:55 ExplosionFreak New Issue
2019-02-16 22:55 ExplosionFreak File Added: mod list.png
2019-02-16 22:55 ExplosionFreak Tag Attached: 1.12.2
2019-02-16 22:55 ExplosionFreak Tag Attached: Mining Laser
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: setup_stone.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: setup_TNT.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: stone_I-TNT.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: stone_laser.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: stone_laser2.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK File Added: stone_TNT.png
2019-02-17 08:15 KrisBigK Note Added: 0005916
2019-02-17 08:22 KrisBigK File Added: slime_I-TNT.png
2019-02-17 08:22 KrisBigK File Added: slime_laser.png
2019-02-17 08:22 KrisBigK File Added: slime_TNT.png
2019-02-17 08:22 KrisBigK Note Added: 0005917
2019-02-17 08:26 KrisBigK File Added: 2019-02-17_16.23.48.png
2019-02-17 08:26 KrisBigK Note Added: 0005918
2019-02-17 08:31 KrisBigK Note Added: 0005919
2019-02-18 01:25 Chocohead Note Added: 0005923
2019-02-18 04:55 KrisBigK Note Added: 0005926
2019-02-27 23:22 Chocohead Status new => acknowledged
2019-02-27 23:22 Chocohead Note Added: 0005938